Gammon bombs (?)

Uberdave · 28th July 2003

I was wondering if the GJS team has considered implementing the Gammon bomb as a close range AT weapon for the Brit AB infantry teams. Would be nice to have a little more firepower vs the 21st Pz, especially in the opening days.

chuck · 28th July 2003

Uberdave,

I believe the Paras do have Gammon bombs in GJS. If you look in the 'AP/AT' indicator in the game you'll see that the Paras have green bars in the 'AT'. Meaning that they have a certain AT capability at a limited range this indicates Gammon bombs. I think this is mentioned in the GJS PDF Read me file.

pt11070 · 29th July 2003

I would apriciate Alies greater capability in close combat. I have stormed geran tanks several times just to find all my men killed.

schrecken · 29th July 2003

Never slap a panzer with a dead fish.

Atilla · 30th July 2003

Never storm German armor with plain-vanilla infantry

The paras do have gammon bombs; but the short range of the device makes it imperative to use them at very close range. Not quite as effective as Panzerrfausts for that matter.

chuck · 31st July 2003

Never underestimate the effect of a well placed Piat round!

Providing your Piat team hasn't s**t themselves first at the sight of a Tiger coming straight at them!!

Pz_meyer · 1st August 2003

comon guys, most german tanks were "knocked-out' by allied aircraft!!!! That means that the vehicles were salvaged when possible and the used again. ALL allied armour was inferior on all fronts to German armor "except when attacked from the air".GJS only needs to employ the only element missing, that is allied air superiority,namley HEAVY BOMBERS and more NAVY!!

chuck · 1st August 2003

"ALL allied armour was inferior on all fronts to German armour..."

Which makes those allied tank crews that took them on all the more courageous!

Cathartes · 1st August 2003

generally inferior, however, you must be happy to have M-10s and Fireflies. When a Sherman has a chance for speed, use it to your advantage. Same with a Stuart.

17 pdrs are deadly to German armor. Use them wisely, they will generally prevail.

Pz_meyer · 2nd August 2003

Apparently some people don't understand the difference between the allies on the western front and the eastern front, but anyway didn't matter even the heaviest Soviet armor was still inferior!! That's why the Germans destroyed over 19,000. soviet aromred vehicles.The Stuart was a joke, the M-10 was no match. You see the Germans understood muzzle velocity as well as frontal armor. As well as having a wealth of knowledge from battleing the Soviets for so long. Ask any American either in a fox hole or in a battle wagon about the fear from having to face a Tiger and all that courage went down the pant leg!

Atilla · 2nd August 2003

Allied armor might in general have been inferior, but in the end they certainly did the job they were called upon to do. German equipment for that matter was far from indestructable.

Pz_meyer · 2nd August 2003

OK, I was just having a little fun. Not trying to offend anyone. I still believe that it was the allied airforces that made the deciding difference, not tank-on-tank engagements. But it's only my opinion.

Loz · 2nd August 2003

Atilla, perhaps you should post your Zetterling link here as well....

RD_Roach · 2nd August 2003

Yes Allied tanks were inferior to German armor...even the Generals knew this!! that famous saying from one(cant remeber his name at the moment) when we send out 7 Tanks to take a Tiger we can count only only one returning!!!They knew that the only way was to out number the Tigers ...this is exacly what they did....thats how i deal with them in GJS .... Stuarts useless?? no way ....they are your best bet for Infanrty and armored vehicles...against Tiger's they make great bait

You be surprized how many hits sometimes from a tiger they will sustain....before being destroyed...But this gives you the time (not always) to move your Flys and M10's in from the flank ...This works as long as your enemy doesnt have another three Tigers waiting for you or a shreck team close by ....

Uberdave · 3rd August 2003

Atilla, Im assuming that the Gammon bomb is listed as the 'Grenade Special' type in the Para Lee Enf column in 'Soldier.adb' using QClone (?)

28th July 2003	#1
Uberdave Gubmint Mule Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: First city of the Free State Age: 36 Posts: 2,231 Rep Power: 16	Gammon bombs (?) I was wondering if the GJS team has considered implementing the Gammon bomb as a close range AT weapon for the Brit AB infantry teams. Would be nice to have a little more firepower vs the 21st Pz, especially in the opening days.

28th July 2003	#2
chuck Forums Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: uk Posts: 141 Rep Power: 0	AB AT. Uberdave, I believe the Paras do have Gammon bombs in GJS. If you look in the 'AP/AT' indicator in the game you'll see that the Paras have green bars in the 'AT'. Meaning that they have a certain AT capability at a limited range this indicates Gammon bombs. I think this is mentioned in the GJS PDF Read me file.

31st July 2003	#6
chuck Forums Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: uk Posts: 141 Rep Power: 0	P.I.A.T. Never underestimate the effect of a well placed Piat round! Providing your Piat team hasn't s**t themselves first at the sight of a Tiger coming straight at them!!

1st August 2003	#8
chuck Forums Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: uk Posts: 141 Rep Power: 0	Allied Tank Crews. "ALL allied armour was inferior on all fronts to German armour..." Which makes those allied tank crews that took them on all the more courageous!

2nd August 2003	#14
RD_Roach Forums Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Canada Age: 51 Posts: 770 Rep Power: 11	Yes Allied tanks were inferior to German armor...even the Generals knew this!! that famous saying from one(cant remeber his name at the moment) when we send out 7 Tanks to take a Tiger we can count only only one returning!!!They knew that the only way was to out number the Tigers ...this is exacly what they did....thats how i deal with them in GJS .... Stuarts useless?? no way ....they are your best bet for Infanrty and armored vehicles...against Tiger's they make great bait You be surprized how many hits sometimes from a tiger they will sustain....before being destroyed...But this gives you the time (not always) to move your Flys and M10's in from the flank ...This works as long as your enemy doesnt have another three Tigers waiting for you or a shreck team close by .... __________________ http://www.reddevilscc.com CC Greatest game ever!!!!

29th July 2003	#3
pt11070 Forums Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 144 Rep Power: 0	I would apriciate Alies greater capability in close combat. I have stormed geran tanks several times just to find all my men killed.

29th July 2003	#4
schrecken Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Age: 49 Posts: 2,515 Rep Power: 19	Never slap a panzer with a dead fish.

30th July 2003	#5
Atilla CSO Members Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 684 Rep Power: 11	Never storm German armor with plain-vanilla infantry The paras do have gammon bombs; but the short range of the device makes it imperative to use them at very close range. Not quite as effective as Panzerrfausts for that matter.

1st August 2003	#7
Pz_meyer Forums Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlantis Posts: 1,870 Rep Power: 15	comon guys, most german tanks were "knocked-out' by allied aircraft!!!! That means that the vehicles were salvaged when possible and the used again. ALL allied armour was inferior on all fronts to German armor "except when attacked from the air".GJS only needs to employ the only element missing, that is allied air superiority,namley HEAVY BOMBERS and more NAVY!!

1st August 2003	#9
Cathartes CSO Members Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 178 Rep Power: 0	generally inferior, however, you must be happy to have M-10s and Fireflies. When a Sherman has a chance for speed, use it to your advantage. Same with a Stuart. 17 pdrs are deadly to German armor. Use them wisely, they will generally prevail.

2nd August 2003	#13
Loz Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Atilla, perhaps you should post your Zetterling link here as well....

3rd August 2003	#15
Uberdave Gubmint Mule Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: First city of the Free State Age: 36 Posts: 2,231 Rep Power: 16	Atilla, Im assuming that the Gammon bomb is listed as the 'Grenade Special' type in the Para Lee Enf column in 'Soldier.adb' using QClone (?)

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